Collaborative
Technical Services Team WebEx meeting minutes
October 17, 2013
[It should be noted that although the Team discussed the possibility of submitting questions to be included in the Cataloging/Metadata Team survey, no consensus was reached and the questions discussed in these minutes were never sent forward by the Collaborative Technical Services Team.]
Present at the meeting were:
Beth Burnett, Bill Clayton, Bill Walsh, Bob Trotter, Cathy Jeffrey,
Chris Huff, Dave Evans, Donna Bennett, Guy Frost, Hallie Pritchett, Jacquiline
Vickers.
Cathy Jeffrey welcomed everyone to the meeting. She opened
the meeting by requesting approval of the minutes from the previous
meeting. The minutes were approved. Cathy indicated that the minutes would be
posted to the Next Gen Blog.
Cathy reported that a request for additional members
suggested by the committee had been forwarded to Merryll Penson. At this point one new member has been
added. Miriam Nauenburg, serials
librarian from the University of West Georgia will be joining the group. Cathy reported that several members including
Miriam had informed her that they had other commitments for this afternoon and
would not be able to attend the meeting.
Cathy reported that there had not been any blog responses to
the minutes of the Team’s first meeting.
She asked if members had received the information about the shared
Google drive for documents and could access it.
Responses seemed to indicate that Google drive was working.
The first item on the agenda was a discussion of the option
to submit questions to be included in the survey that is being prepared by the
Cataloging/Metadata Team. Cathy used a
poll to determine support from the group for this collaboration.
While the polling was taking place Bill Clayton commented
that the survey should not be too complicated and should be straight
forward. He said that if we could think
of something that would benefit our perspective that we could certainly do
that. It was mentioned that currently the Cataloging survey had three
questions.
Question: Do you think
that it would be a good idea to contribute questions to the cataloging/metadata
survey?
Answer: yes 67%
no 22%
no answer 11%
The majority voted to participate in the survey.
Cathy shared three potential questions to
begin the discussion. These were based
on the discussion the week before regarding shared catalogs and local
customizations.
The questions that the group considered were:
1. Do
you believe that moving from individual catalogs to one or more shared catalogs
would be:
a. A
very good decision
b. A
good decision
c. Neutral
d. A
bad decision
e. A
very bad decision
2. Do
you believe that local customization and enhancement of bibliographic records
is:
a. Very
helpful to users
b. Helpful
to users
c. Somewhat
helpful to users
d. Not
helpful at all
3. Would
it be important for local customizations and enhancements of bibliographic
records to be part of new shared catalogs that replace our individual
catalogs.?
a. Yes
b. No
Bill Clayton agreed
that the first two questions captured the essence of the previous discussion
but worried that there needed to be more context. He thought that we would get some idea of how
the larger community felt about it. Bill
stated that he thought that a shared database was something that we had to
consider. It is not necessarily
something that we have to do but it would good to consider if it would be a
benefit to us providing more flexibility.
If we think that it could be a benefit then what are the downsides. Are there other issues besides local
customization. Cathy suggested that an
additional question about other potential problems associated with a shared
database could be included. She also
suggested that it might be interesting to know how people would respond to
these issues today and how they would respond six months or a year from
now. Hallie Pritchett felt that the
questions were fine but that there needed to be space to add a comment. Hallie said that adding an explanation and/or
pros and cons for a shared database would be needed. Bill’s concern was that any explanation
should be brief. Hallie agreed. Cathy suggested that perhaps Hallie could
make some of these changes to the Google document.
Bill asked what the distinction would be between questions 2
and 3. Cathy said that question 3 would
be associated with the migration of the data.
Hallie suggested combining question 2 and 3. A discussion of the definition of local
customization continued with Guy Frost describing an example from his library. Guy mentioned that there is a method in the
Marc format to add a code that would identify local information but he felt
that how that code was implemented by the vendor could vary. He also mentioned
some customization that would be useful to everyone – like a contents note
enhancement. Hallie suggested that specific
instruction for standardization across the system would be needed. Guy agreed that having “best practices” would be a good idea.
Donna Bennett recommended the following information from the
Orbis rfp: “the consortium requires a solution which will support a structure
of shared records while retaining the ability to add and maintain unique local
fields as needed”. She wondered how well the vendor had done at supplying that.
The group continued to discuss how local customization might
display in a shared environment. Bob Trotter said that would be a question that
we would need to ask the vendor. Bill
Clayton said that we would have customization but it was not clear how the
local data would display. Bill said that
he did not think that we knew the answer to that question. Bob agreed.
Bob went on to say that we currently have more questions than answers
about how the information will display.
Bill said that the heart of what we are doing is identifying what the
questions are. Bob said that the Systems
Team is looking at the broader questions and will be responsible for making
sure that the system will be able to handle what we want it to do. Bill stated that what he was hearing fairly
clearly was “there needs to be a way to display local data to their
users.” Cathy agreed and said that would
be one reason for the question. Bob
agreed that was what this team should be doing and it would be up to the System
team to make sure that it was possible.
To summarize this discussion the group seemed to agree that
questions 2 and 3 should be combined.
The resulting two questions should include a brief explanation of some
sort as well as a free text box for comments.
Other survey questions were suggested.
Guy suggested:
Would you support the idea of having system wide best
practices?
Bob suggested:
Would you support a centralized processing center?
Cathy suggested that instead we might ask if there might be
support for a larger institution helping a smaller institution with its
cataloging and processing. Bill stated
that it is important to make a distinction between what we want to do and what
we want the system to be able to do should that ever become a need in the
future. Bob agreed.
Cathy said that in that case perhaps that question would be
more appropriate for the rfp rather than the membership. Bill said that he did not see a reason to
include this question in the survey other than to expose this idea to a broader
audience. Bob said that it would need to
be phrased correctly.
Guy felt that this
possibility needs to be disseminated publicly because others may have valid
reasons why it would not work that we have not considered. Bob suggested that Merryll might also have an
opinion on this question. Hallie felt
that rather than asking about centralized processing we could ask about
centralized processing for certain processing for certain aspects like
authorities or formats. The group agreed that “shared” processing
would be a better term.
Would you see it as beneficial to have shared processing for
some cataloging tasks such as authority work?
Cathy suggested
Would you see it as beneficial to have a shared collection
development policy for the system?
The next item on the agenda was the rfp template. Cathy shared a document that she had created
to be a starting place. She asked the
question if we should eliminate required features from the discussion of
collaboration. Guy expressed some
concern that doing so might mean that the system we ended up with might lack
features that we needed. Bill said that
Merryll feels that we can get more information from the process by asking
questions than by listing requirements.
Then we get to evaluate the answers and can decide that a vendor’s
answers don’t meet our needs.
Bill and Bob stated that the Cloud Team will handle area 4.E
which is related to the Cloud computing environment and system
functionality. The Collaborative
Technical Services Team should respond to the Functional Areas as they relate
to collaboration.
The group discussed briefly how the rfp would be structured. Bill stated that question regarding
collaboration could be included in the rfp in their own section or they could
be added to the specific functional area that the question addresses. That will be determined later. Cathy summarized that we simply need to come
up with the questions and they will be used where they are most
appropriate. Bill agreed that might be
correct. Cathy suggested that perhaps we
could develop an introductory description for collaboration and then refer to
the functional groups for the requirements and questions. Bill agreed that might work.
Cathy announced the next meet for Nov. 7 at 12:00 and
encouraged everyone to work on the documents.
The meeting was adjourned.
Submitted by
Cathy Jeffrey